." senator wyden, first off, what are your issues with the protect and the sopa anti-piracy legislative pieces? >> guest: both of them are, essentially, using a bunker-buster bomb when what you need is a laser beam. look, there is no question that there are some bad actors out there. there are people who sell tainted viagra or fake roll lexes or movies they don't own, and as far as i'm concerned, you ought to handcuff them. but these bills go way, way beyond that and particularly they do a tremendous amount of damage to the architecture of the internet. i mean, basically, what they do is they turn web sites into web cops. i mean, basically, you'd have web sites trying to monitor enormous, you know, amounts of data. youtube alone gets, like, 24 hours of content, you know, every second. it would be impossible to monitor. nobody really even tries except for the chinese and the iranians. >> host: so saying that, that they go too far for you, what is your alternative proposal that you and representative darrell issa, republican of california, have proposed? >> guest: what we do is offer an a